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Jabiru J400 Builder Log - May 2006

       

5/31/2006 7:46pm-12:05am
1) another thing about this paint is that it's a pain to mix... but i guess all polyurethane paints probably are since you need to get the viscosity correct...18-20sec in this case...
2) another thing...i have two sets of instructions...however the instructions that came with it say that i should put all the paint down in 4 coats... it seems a bit tricky to do so... it's kind of a lot of paint to do this without running...it seems that the first 2 parts i painted have extremely good finish and was done in about 6 coats...the first 4 or 5 in quite thin coats... the second set of instructions says i can lay down more coats if needed... hmmm...
3) it seems i've screwed up a lot of parts including all the doors... i think i might be having a ventilation issue that is preventing the parts from drying quickly... so what is happening is that i'm waiting a long time between coats... this is causing the paint in the gun to dry at the tip somewhere...and that clogs the tip area and provides poor paint injection...it sort of dribbles out and around the nozzle instead into the air stream ... so it drips on the parts..sort of splatter... so it's back to the drawing board unfortunately...i have to solve this ventilation issue first i presume so that i need not wait so long in between coats... btw, the hair drier died today coincidentally..it was really clogged...and this lack of ventilation is causing this...real bummer...
4) i decided to put this little thermometer/hygrometer in the tent.. 69% humidity...definitely not good...it does seem that this is the case...it might be ok for other type of paints but waterborne i think definitely will choke with this... real bummer...i guess i'll leave it at this and go home... i'll have to resand these parts when they are dry... and i though i was done sanding :(

       

5/30/2006 7:39pm-2am
1) inspected the parts from yesterday... the last bit of parts got some snot looking stuff on it at the end of paint...it looks like it was this stringy stuff which is probably the polyurethane starting to gel...kind of a bummer...i might not care..it's not terrible terrible but it's not perfect like the top strut fairings...
2) one thing to note is that this AFS topcoat almost smells like candy or some sort of kid plastic... it's something i've smelled before..it's really quite pleasant unlike the primer..the primer has this isopropyl alchohol smell that kills the mask filter in about 2 sessions... i've gone through several mask filters already...and it gives you a killer headache if you don't replace it... the primer is kind of nasty and a forced air respirator might not be a bad idea if you paint a lot as you'll end up saving money on the filters that run about $20 to replace
3) another thing to note is that this topcoat takes a lot longer to dry in between coats to tacky... thus i messed up a few parts with some runs but they werent terrible... i was able to fix with a few more coats

       

5/29/2006 5:30-9pm
1) spray painted the first topcoats on the top and bottom strut fairings and tail covers...tricky stuff but i think the trick is to get a last coat that smoothens nicely like a mirror

       

5/28/2006 10:50pm-3am
1) moved the recently primed parts such as wings, struts and fuselage out of the tent for primer sanding
2) sanded all the parts above...the 1qt extra sent recently is darker than the initial primer... when i spoke to Dan at AFS i mentioned that the primer was darker than the swatch of 'smoke grey' so he said he'll send it a bit darker but maybe i should have not mentioned anything because he sent something way darker than the initial.... hmmm... hope it's not a problem

       

5/27/2006 9-2:15am
1) primed all the squeegied parts such as the wings and remaining fixed spots on fuselage and doors...hopefully this will be the last day of priming

       

5/24/2006 5-11:02pm
1) sanded all the remaining parts with 400 grit...only the fuselage is left..probably will fix a few minor spots with micro on the fuselage and then prime a bit more

       

5/22/2006 4-9:18pm
1) sanded the wings and a the rear door with 400 grit ... not sure that epoxy over the primer on the wings was a good idea... the primer gets a lot lighter after sanding but the epoxy is in the way so there's dark spots...mmmm... i guess more primer might fix it... also..after a lot of sanding on some places without primer, it seems that it is quite possible that i might not need epoxy squeegies everywhere... although i got to say that the squeegied epoxy gives a very smooth surface... i might just take the easy and quick way out though... it's not a show aircraft

       

5/21/2006 6-10:04pm
1) squeegied epoxy on the micro sections of the wings and 2 doors...... not sure if it was a good or bad idea but i don't know how else to fill in the porous micro...not sure if i'll have to reprime either...kind of a bummer if i do need to reprime

       

5/20/2006 6pm-12:02am
1) primed the fuselage...ran short on the primer so i concentrated on the micro'd areas to even the color... i think that squeegy epoxy on the micro'd spots and pin holes is going to be necessary...but looks good overall

       

5/18/2006 4:22pm-1:30am
1) so i received the AFS top coats in the mail today along with my N numbers and a few other stickers... the top coats sound tricky... we'll have to see how that goes... my biggest concern is that the micro is highly porous and even after the primer you can still see different shades... maybe it'll smoothen out when sanding but i got a feeling that it might not... so i might spray the struts first and a small micro'd fiberglass part to see what it looks like... if it doesn't do the trick, i might have to squeege epoxy over the micro'd areas before sanding
2) another thing about painting is that the priming doesn't make the surface completely even...am i not priming enough? i do wonder if this will be a problem..i don't really want to add lots of weight in paint... i am building for performance and not show quality.. i guess we'll see
3) i primed the doors and the spinner's back flange since that's partially exposed
4) finished taping the fuselage with tricia and stuck it back in the tent with some improvements

       

5/17/2006 4:34pm-11:04pm
1) cleaned the wings with laquer thinner as i do with all parts before painting
2) primed the wings with AFS ekoprimer
3) tricia taped up the fuselage for painting...or partially at least

       

5/16/2006 4-12:45am
1) prefit the spinner onto the flanges...the spinner wasn't quite cut out properly for the sensenich prop the dealer sent me so it took a lot of tweaking and fitting the flanges so that everything fit properly...used a heat gun on the rear flange as it didn't fit too well... also had to use a unibit to enlarge the holes on the rear flange to 5/8 so that the prop guides fit through... riveted anchor nuts to the flanges as necessary and counter sunk for counter sunk washers
2) made another table out of the wood crate to hold painted parts
3) moved the primed parts out of the tent
4) moved the wings into the spray tent
5) sanded the rear spinner flange for painting...didn't realize i needed to do this till now

       

5/15/2006 3pm-11:30pm
1) spray painted the flaps... got a little woozie... so i went and bought a new mask...the old mask didn't last too long it seem...
2) spray painted (primed) the elevator with the new mask...seems that the new mask works
3) tried to fit the spinner but it seems i need a 5/8 drill to enlarge the rear spinner flange
4) tricia helped out with washing wings and fuselage

       

5/14/2006 4-10:15pm
1) spray painted the rudder, ailerons and main wheel spats..didn't get to the flaps but will do that tomorrow...also...i saw some wood specs on my rudder in one place so i covered the wood table with plastic... at the end i saw some specs of dried up paint on the aileron edges as they touched the table...i think i might have to suspend these like the wood spats over paper towel rolls
2) cleaned up a bunch inside the tent...

       

5/13/2006 4-10pm
1) made a table outside out of the crate wood so that i can move painted parts from the inside of the paint booth to the outside
2) washed a bunch of control surfaces for painting
3) made a spat stand so that i can hang the spats up in the air and paint all around

       

5/12/2006 3-1am
1) spray painted lots of miscellaneous parts (covers) including cowl

       

5/11/2006 3pm-10pm
1) a lot has happened since my last log entry... unfortunately i was a bit busy getting stuff ready for the painting and so some entries were missed... i'll summarize a bit...
a) i connected the air filter to my compressor... the inlet on the filter is 3/4 inch and outlet on the compressor is 1/2 inch... another problem was the clearance and so i had to come up with a water pipe contraption that hooked to the filter and rested on the compressor handle..
b) i installed a HVAC air filter from home depot on the tent so that i can have controlled place for air movements inside and out... this allowed me to use a hairdrier to exhaust some air to the outside of the tent so that it doesn't get too humid inside
c) i was bit concerned about dust...especially since some other builders have had issues... because of this i sprayed corn syrup (like pancake syrup but clear) onto the tent inside walls, floor and ceiling using one of those pesticide sprayers from the gardening department (diluted of course).. it seemed to cure the problem...the tent was really dusty after sitting open in the hangar next to all this sanding...this hangar gets dusty quick because my hangarmates open the door often... (i now have sprayed my first parts and there's no hint of dust from what i can tell)
d) after the dust, i had a lighting issue...these incandescent lights are not strong enough for this hangar.. so i decided to fix the lighting with 10 flourescent shoplights that hold 2 40 watt T12 flourescent bulbs... i arranged these lights much like a car paint booth i've seen online.. it works quite well.. i also learned that 'residential' flourescent bulbs emit 'incandescent' type light and daylight bulbs are the bluish flourescent... didn't like either..i used the flourescent cool white which are the true white lights that work well in shops
e) yesterday i intended spraying my first part but that didn't happen...unfortunately, my hangar mate sold his ultralight and since he 'put out' his back, i helped the buyer with disassembling the aircraft and loading it on the trailer... not sure what their original plan was because i'm not sure what they would have done if i didn't coincidentally show up... anyway...since i wasted a lot of time, i decided to seal the two front seats... i used aeropoxy and layed glass over the header tank and the pilot seat... boy it looks like it's ready to fly with these seats sealed... all i need are some cushions :)
d) talking about cushions, i got a quote of $1200 for custom made seats... kind of a bummer since this is only the seats and to do all of the interior would run more like $5-6K... since the primary reason to build the experimental was cost, this doesn't sound like a way to save money... so i decided to do my own upholstry... otherwise, i might as well just buy a new cessna if i'm going to be forking out loads of money and this way won't have to build at all... besides, i really want something light for upholstry and it's something i can redo easily without taking the aircraft out of service... besides, i took 'Home Ec' in middle school so I'm good with fabric ... originally i took home ec so that i could be a house-husband but that didn't happen ;)
f) so as previously mentioned, i'm doing the paint... (yes it's that save money thing again or buy a cessna)... anyway i've decided that the plane is experimental and so the paint should be too... (but not too experimental)... so i decided to go with AFS primer and polyurethane...many reasons to this.. the biggest reason is that it is an 'environmentally friendly' paint..it is waterborne and so there's no fire hazard especially since i have lights on the inside of my tent.. besides, the original paint that i considered which is Imron sounds like lethal stuff...this way, i'm contributing to the innovation of safe paints.. yeah.. that sounds good :) .. who wants to choke on air anyway?! ... i just hope that this paint isn't bad like the polyfiber waterborne that was removed from the market... apparently those who used that had paint chip on them a few months into it seems..real bummer... so if this one sucks i'll be sure to post it visibly somewhere... by the way... AFS is at www.aircraftfinishing.com ... hey free advertising for them
g) regarding more painting... spray gun...i had researched this quite a long time.. i know you pay for what you get... but that's only sometimes... and i don't want to blow a chunk on a nice SATA spray gun since it's a one time use mostly.... so I bought SATA's knockoff which is ASTRO for $80?.. since i don't know a damn thing about spray painting i read forums and others had some good results and say it's as good as the sata for 1/5 the price (or a very close 'almost')... i have shot it with this AFS primer and I can say that it looks good... but i don't know jack about painting.. but it does look good... no runs or any of those funky textures like orange peal so far..took some pictures so you be the judge
2) i primed the top strut fairings using the ASTRO mentioned above and AFS one part primer... i set the gun to 30psi with the trigger pulled.. just thought of something... since this is friendly paint, i guess you could use a regular high pressure spray gun and not feel guilty that you are overpolluting the air... but the HVLP does save paint as it transfers more efficiently... and if you haven't guessed, polyurethane is over $200 a gallon... but if it were necessary for a nice finish i would have gone high pressure... but it doesn't sound like it from what i've read
3) washed a bunch of parts to remove any watersoluble stuff...tomorrow i'll spray them

       

5/7/2006 4pm- 11:30pm
1) prepared the tent and washed some parts for painting...bought painting supplies...etc..paint prep

       

5/6/2006 5-1am
1) sanded remaining bits with 220 grit by hand were necessary
2) did a major cleaning with tricia and resealled the tent ...getting it ready for painting

       

5/4/2006 4-12:30am
1) lots of sanding with 220 grit...sanded all parts

       

5/2/2006 4:05-8:43pm
1) sanded all the filled areas from yesterday... smoothed out some holes where the fuel lines enter the cabin... looks like i'm ready to prep for painting..
2) used fine paper and sanded left wing surface with my sponged sandpaper made using the random orbital sander.....used 320 grit... will have to go home and research to see if this is good enough or if it should be coarser or finer

       

5/1/2006 3:15pm-7:20pm
1) finished the cowl... installed a retaining nut for the cowl hinge pins on both sides.. also installed the hid assembly with large countersunk rivets... hopefully the HID works since i am going to micro over the rivets.. also cut the oil door hinge arm so that it clears the ram duct...it seems that it rubs on it really good unless i cut the arm ..
2) filled in some more spots on wings, cowl and fuselage... it should be done and ready for primer after this...

 


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